May 2015 Birgitta Bergsten BALANCE Reg. Saddle Consultant Balance Saddle Consultations And Other News Page 3 Radionics Chrissie Mason is one of the pillars in my horses health care programme. Over the years, she has helped many of the horses I have owned. Several times now I have been doing un announced trips - only because I have had so many enquiries II could not fit in any more bookings. That was the case now in April/May in Switzerland. And again, more people are waiting for me to come back. So, my nose will turn towards Switzerland again, approximately 30th of May to 6th June. Then, if there is enough people, I will visit Germany week 26 (22/28th of June). The BeNeLux countries can be included, of course. My trips summer 2015 Finding good horse feed can be a struggle, especially when you move from one country to another. I tried very hard to find feed more locally, but in the end had to give in, and now import from the UK. And I am not going to change as the horses are looking GOOD Page 6 Endzo, Boris & North Light The story continues, about my horses and what we do. Page 5 The BALANCE Pad System A basic introduction to the pad system. By Lesley Taylor France: I am available on demand. I am on holiday: 9-20th of May. I am not going to be near internet during this time. June-August. Not available for trips, I feed my horses with…… Page 2 but I will be available for enquiries and support per email. info&aquilabalance.eu Page 4 Horse friendly saddle=better health An inspiring story from Mary in the States September - open for trips again New Mobile Phone Number You can reach me on 0033 618 96 06 45 Endzo,Boris & North Light I am working on getting a special FaceBook page and a You Tube channel set up, to present the work I do with my horses. Then, all of you that have not been able to follow the progress of Boris and Endzo will be able to get the whole story. However, my time at home is limited, and the time I have, is prioritised for the horses. Of Course!! I have plenty of video materials that needs editing………….in my spare time! My Boys Some of my videos I have taken to capture the work I do with the horses, are, quite frankly, of very low quality. Because I had to video record and lunge a horse at the same time!! One hand lunging! But I could get some good recording, which enabled me to share them with my trainer, Carol Brett who is in the UK or travels around the world. Then, one of you told me about something called Soloshot. So now I have a robotic camera man! I can truly recommend this tool, and if you can, I would suggest you go for the newest version, Soloshot2. It requires a newer video camera than I have, but it will take care of the focusing. Mine does not, I have to set it up manually, but still it is a great tool. It is very useful to record what you do, either riding; lunging or walking in hand. There are things you just don’t see when you are busy working, but you can see on the video. Boris After a winter break I could pick up the work with Boris again, basically where we left it in the autumn. Excitingly enough, I have been able to take off the body wrap and do the lunging with just the Eeezy Reins. He has discovered how to pick up his hind legs much quicker and closer to his body, so the body wrap has done its job. It may be that we need to go back to it as a reminder in the future. He is doing lovely work on the lunge, nice collected trot, and are softer in his middle so he can bend and shift his ribs to the outside of the circle. We are coming very close to him being able to carry a rider in a efficient way. Hurrah! Endzo A month or so ago he suffered a hoof abscess. Something we do hear about from time to time when horses start remedial work. We also had a very dry spell here when the ground got very hard, and his hooves are not of the best quality yet, so he got very sore. It is only this last week that I could do something with him, not only due to the weather conditions and the ground being better, but also due to me being at home. I have done lots of walking in hand with him over the winter, and only now started to do lunging with him. I am using the Eeezy Reins so he can learn to work into the contact and also to offer him a frame so he is not falling on his forehand. In walk it is not a big problem for him, but trot is not easy. On circle to the right he is totally unbalanced and needs to learn how to keep his ribs more to the left in order to bend along the track he is travelling on. To help him with this, I work in WALK, and remind him not to push his ribs to the right with my hand. See Remedial Program ; www.BALANCEinternational.com North Light The Senior in my herd. I have not talked much about him in my Newsletters, because it has felt he and I have gone through a very personal and emotional time, only to be shared with a selected few. He has been the youngest horse in his herd for 20 years, then he lost both his mates within a year. Personally I think he was looking for a way out, but then Boris came a long and North Light change his mind. But the stress during the few weeks he was without friends was enough to cause bodily problems. These problems are over now, and since Endzo came, he is back to his normal forever young self. He and I now have a project with the remedial work, and I hope I will be able to ride him again later in the summer. Don’t ask what the horse can do for you. Ask what can you do for the horse! 2 Chrissie Mason Horse & Dog health www.horsehealthmatters.co.uk Chrissie is a member of The British Register of Complementary Practitioners specialising in energy medicine as well as being the author of a successful article holding pride of place on many animal World Wide Web sites. ' They Shoot Horses but Vaccinate Dogs ' is recognised as a major contribution to the vaccine debate. With over twenty-five years experience in Alternative and Complementary Medicine, Chrissie's work is recognised both internationally and in the United Kingdom Her work has been acknowledged by many journalists and has appeared in both national and international periodicals including the national press; Sunday Times Magazine Mail on Sunday Dogs Today and Pet Dogs Magazines Positive Health and Caduceus Vitamins, minerals and amino acids Vitamins and minerals when administered in appropriate proportions can effectively restore the animal to good health. The body becomes out of balance when physical or behavioural symptoms are apparent and it is a vital first step to restore the equilibrium to the body. The biochemistry is vital to health and well being, vitamins, minerals and amino acids are all part of the body's biochemic chains. Often for a short period of time one must increase the intake of these essential nutrients to a level beyond the recommended daily allowance. The structure of the animal form is exactly the same as for us, the human form, insofar as they have a cell structure identical to our own. For example, a liver cell is a liver cell irrespective of whether it is inside the human form or the form of an animal. Some of the methods of digestion differ to that of our own, but physiologically there is very little difference between us. All nourishment ingested as food is broken down by the digestive apparatus into material which can be absorbed into the intestines. Optimum nutrition is vital for the animal's health and well being; optimum nutrition is achieved by feeding good quality real food which enables optimum assimilation and absorption from the diet. The use of the information should always be discussed with your vet prior to embarking on a programme. About Horse Health Matters I regularly interact with other healthcare professionals, including Veterinary Surgeons, in UK and overseas, animal behaviourists as well as some highly regarded saddle and riding consultants in UK and Europe.. Often the road back to improved health and well being is a long one for our animals just as it can be for us humans. It may incorporate addressing emotional or behavioural patterns as well as unwanted physical symptoms. I have treated equine sarcoids quite successfully in conjunction with the owner (see sarcoids case study). I try to have a full and open relationship with my clients with a clear working format. Blind faith is not sufficient. I want to feel my clients are fully engaged with what we are all trying to achieve. If I suggest a supplement or remedy I wish the client to be aware of why I have selected that particular item and what result I am hoping to achieve by using it in the animal’s health care regime. If you are unsure as to whether or not I can offer a service to you please feel free to email your questions and concerns and I will do my best to answer them for you Real Food Nowadays many dog diets are grossly deficient of active nutrients, when I am preparing my dog's meals which comprise of good quality meat, vegetables, fish and biscuit meal, along with a number of other canine delectable treats, their digestive juices react to the aromas when the food is being prepared and become active before the food is placed down. The resultant effect means that the digestive process which helps to secrete the digestive enzymes will actively absorb and convert the food in the appropriate manner. Dried food seldom promotes this reaction. Feeding the same food seven days a week, 365 days a year would certainly send me crazy. I cannot imagine being served one inert bowl of cereal with no changes, every day of my life. It should also be frowned upon as shoddy husbandry to keep dog or cat food accessible 24/7. Constantly picking at nibbles of food will not gain the same nutritious result as will feeding twice daily, three times if the animal has specific needs. Teeth play an important role. The animals' teeth must be sound for them to masticate their food effectively; symptoms of colic in horses can sometimes be traced back to damaged teeth or root problems which prevent the ingested food being broken down properly. Alternatively stomach disorders in dogs can have a similar origin. 3 Acavallo Non Slip Gel pad Traveling can be a challenge Sometimes travelling around means that you have to have an extensive wardrobe with you. You can literally go from bikini weather to full blown winter attire within a week! When I left home to go to Switzerland a few weeks ago, I left summer behind. During the week it was not bad, quite normal spring weather. Then half way up to St Moritz, when I woke up in the morning and looked out from my bedroom window I saw snow. Lots of snow! Sometimes there will be an issue with the saddle and pads slipping. It is not normally an issue, but if there is, then the light weight thinnest Acavallo Anti Slip pad can make the difference. It goes directly onto the horse, then the normal pads and the saddle. Several people have used it under their BALANCE saddle and pads, with good results. You can find it in most countries in Europe, and is not expensive. Can be cut to size. My Favourite from the BALANCE WEB SHOP The old is often the best. The Cavason and the lunge rein has made a huge difference in my training with my horses. Clear, small signals are heard, of both parties! Birgitta away on holiday 10-20th of May. Away with NO internet connection. July - August. At home, will respond to emails. Spring clothes are not enough for winter weather! But the lovely hotel owner’s wife lent me her long winter coat for the day. Well, once I got up into Engadin, there was little snow and lots of sunshine. But at the end of the day, the sun disappeared behind the mountains and it got very cold and windy. I was very grateful for the coat! Thank you, Jenny! Mary Baschtarz, BrTRF Here is something very interesting and inspiring, sent to BALANCE by Mary Bashtarz BrTRF* based in the USA. Here are some examples of why I love doing this work... I would like to highly encourage more riding facilities, pony camps, therapeutic riding centers and other training centers which have multiple riders per horse, to take a look at BALANCE Saddling methods and options. I have worked with owners and barn managers to create ‘transition plans’ to help them to move their horses into more appropriate saddles over several years. In barns with multiple horses and riders this has been necessary in order to make the process manageable from both practical and economic stand points. There have been incredible successes that I would like to share with you Example 1 In one facility that focused on youth lessons, the owner was operating with an overhead of 30% more horses because of the high rate of rest and recuperation needed for injuries which were almost completely due to back soreness and related lameness. The programme that we put into action was as follows: ! We first looked through all the saddles that the center already owned and identified the widest ones that also had the most ‘horse-friendly. We coupled them with appropriate pads to make them comfortable and safe to use on the narrowest of their horses. A chart was needed for each horse and the saddles/pads arrangement choices to make it simple for those tacking up. ! The next step was to look for some better/wider, conventional saddles that could be used with appropriate pads for the horses who were too wide for any of the saddles that the center owned. ! The last step was to transition into BALANCE saddles. We starting with the widest horses first and then as the other horses recovered muscle and posture to a point where they had healthy, well developed backs, they moved into a BALANCE saddle, as soon as finances permitted. This process took a lot of commitment and some financial investment. However, the benefits have been significant. In addition to the satisfaction of knowing that the horses were comfortable, the facility was able to reduce their herd significantly as the horses in use could stay in use due to almost no more back related soreness or lameness. It also provided for an almost 50% reduction in the number of saddles that had to be kept in stock for use, thereby reducing the amount of labor for tack upkeep. Each saddle could now be used by several horses with a different BALANCE pad arrangement. Example 2 The next example is from a very busy therapeutic riding center. They run up to 60 lessons per day. They also happen to be incredibly organized! When we started about 5 years ago, it began with their purchase of two BALANCE saddles. We had to work within a very strict budget. Again, the process started with looking at the equipment that the facility already owned and the horses it was being used on. ! The first step was to stop using the narrowest saddles and those with the least horse friendly features. Then we started to phase in BALANCE pads to be used with the widest of their conventional saddles. For several years their two BALANCE saddles* were used in every set of lessons they offered. *If there was a group in the arena, there were two BALANCE saddles in use! That was possible because of the versatility of ‘fit’ offered by the use of the different BALANCE pad arrangements. ! Next, they started to buy used BALANCE saddles and their goal is to have at least one BALANCE saddle per horse. Results that speak for themselves. This center had started with almost every horse working with back soreness of some type, to literally no back soreness at all now! It is an amazing achievement because this has been achieved despite that fact that almost all of their student riders are unbalanced and crooked. For this center, an added side benefit is that when they have to retire or replace a horse, they can still use the BALANCE saddle on another by changing the pad arrangement. I have also been told that the horses are now adding years to their retirement dates, which is being attributed to lack of back soreness and attitude improvement. A great testament to the effectiveness of the BALANCE Saddling System. Supportive and constructive riding is important too. Many horses just need regular reminders or suggestions from a balanced rider to allow them to become straight and to improve their balance. (provided they are allowed to use a saddle that allows this) At this particular center, the riding instructors took several Constructive Riding**clinics with me in which we used the center's horses and the BALANCE saddles. This allowed the instructors to recognise and correct the crookedness and improve the balance of the horses during the first clinic. The instructors then volunteered their time to ride each horse for one hour per week in this way to help the horses to recover/remember straightness, equal bending and balance. This method is working so well that most of the horses are now well established in their basic balance, straightness etc. and so the instructors are starting to introduce more advanced work. These results are just from the horses having one session (1 hr) per week, being ridden by a balanced rider who can remind them of how to use their bodies more efficiently, despite them having 5 days a week carrying unbalanced riders! Do not underestimate the effect of even a single session of better handling and/or riding with a horse! Horses are amazing in their willingness and ability to let go of old and unhelpful habits and behaviours when reminded of a better (more efficient, natural, comfortable) way of using their bodies. In most cases they instantly start to participate in the process as soon as they are provided with a saddle and a riding method that both support the way their bodies are ‘designed’ to move. As an aside, the instructors are thrilled with the 'new' horses they have discovered. What had started as a dedicated commitment to try to help offset the effect of unbalanced riders on somewhat unresponsive horses has changed into a very real anticipation of weekly rides on balanced, responsive and interested horses who are much lighter on their feet. **Note from BALANCE The Constructive Riding clinics that Mary refers to are based on her own version/interpretation of the teaching methods created by Carol Brett, co-founder of the BALANCE organisation, with whom, Mary has spent a good deal of time during the past 10 years. Also, attending some of Carol’s ‘Constructive Riding’ Workshops and Clinics. Carol’s ‘Constructive Riding’ (AKA ‘Straight-Forward-Riding’) approach has, at its foundation, a reverence for the natural, functional anatomy of the horse (and the human being). In so doing, it provides the rider and trainer with an understanding of what the ridden horse needs to either recover or retain its health, soundness, comfort and good performance. 4 exclusive story The BALANCE Padding System Here is a basic introduction to the BALANCE Padding System. Lesley Taylor The BALANCE Saddling System comprises of a well designed saddle that is deliberately chosen to be wider than the horse's current static back shape and width, used in conjunction with padding that provides comfort, protection and the balance of the saddle. To do this, the pads have to have a variety of important qualities and this requires a mixture of materials. The pad that goes against the horse needs to provide some cushioning, the ability to regulate body heat, and the ability to wick away sweat. There are many high tech. materials around, but as is so often the case, when the horses themselves are asked for an opinion, the material that seems to fit the bill more often than not, is wool. There are, of course, exceptions to this rule and very occasionally, we come across a horse who dislikes the feel of wool and then an alternative needs to be offered. However, this is unusual and therefore, BALANCE saddles are usually 'fitted' with a wool-fleece, lined saddle pad to go directly onto the horse. This pad is always an equal depth/thickness through its length, but we do offer two different thickness's of pad because some horses want more padding than others. The pad will lift the saddle up and off the horse's back a little, but it will not impact on the front to back balance of the saddle. When you fit a saddle to be slightly wider than the horse when at rest, it will not be stable/balanced when you only use the wool-fleece pad alone. The saddle will rock and tip down and forward at the front as soon as any weight is put into the stirrups. In conventional saddle fitting this would be considered to be a fault. However, in Constructive Saddling, this feature is essential because the saddle width has to allow for the use of an additional, protective, therapeutic pad under the front of the saddle without lifting the front of the saddle out of balance. The extra pad under the front area of the saddle is the key to the success of the BALANCE Saddling System and the feature that time and again, transform horses from short striding, tense and resistant, to free moving, happy athletes! One would never imagine something so seemingly simple and innocent could cause so much controversy in the saddle industry, and yet is often does!! If the horse is well muscled and has been trained well enough to carry its rider in an engaged and lifted posture, it will probably only need a modest amount of therapeutic padding under the correct width of saddle. Indeed, there is no benefit to the horse from using more pads than are necessary. This is where we use, what we call the JB Pad. These pads, sit under the front of the saddle and depending on which version is used, or which combination of JB pads areused, provides anything from a quarter of an inch of lift to three quarters of an inch of lift to the front of the saddle. The pads can be fine tuned in their actual position to work for every horse. The material used inside the JB pads is a closed cell, gel foam. This is important because the material in these pads has to be able to respond/recover fast to keep up with the rapid muscle movement in the horse's back and must not stay compressed. It is the combination of the wool-fleece next to the horse and then the closed cell foam layers between the saddle pad and the underside of the saddle that creates a dynamic and protective interface between the soft tissues of the horse and the structures of the saddle. Whenever a rider gets onto the saddle his or her weight is impacting on the horse. The structure provided by a well designed tree of an appropriate shape, length and width is important because it makes it easier to carry the rider's weight over a larger area than can be achieved in a bareback pad or tree less saddle. However, where you have weight from the rider, you also have compression of the soft tissues in the horse's back. The closed cell foam in the JB pad and the wool-fleece work together and act like a protective barrier for the horse. Rather than the soft tissues of the back being directly compressed by the riders weight via the structure's of the saddle. Now it is the materials in the pads that get compressed well before anything on the horse! Some horses demand even more cushioning under the saddle than the wool-fleece pads can provide alone and for them, the BALANCE Pro-Complete Base Pad was designed. In two thicknesses, it extends the protective quality of the closed cell foam along the full length of the saddle, but also has the built in JB pad at the front. The BALANCE therapeutic Pad System also offers several versions of what we call Remedial Pads, that we see as temporary pads that are used on occasions where a horse has become so compromised in its natural, healthy posture that a layer of the protective gel foam needs to provide some support under the back of the saddle or under the middle. The long term solution to these problems has to lie in the correct training and management of the horse as it is usually in the training and management where the negative influences and the cause of the weak posture, have come from!! However, there is no doubt that for some horses, the Remedial Pad provide what they need during the time of transition. All of these pads have been designed, to offer very versatile options to fine tune to any horse. The fact that they are a layered and adjustable system makes them easy to use. Taking care of the horses saddling needs is not rocket science! Unfortunately, there is a huge growth in complicated, expensive merchandise and diagnostic tools that are making some people a lot of money and that seem to suggest that ensuring that the horse is comfortable in its saddle is beyond the average rider. This is simply not the case, and provided the rider has access to the tools he or she needs as in: • a) a well designed saddle that is available in a good enough range of widths that go considerably wider than a conventional extra wide tree plus • b) a simple, adjustable and layered range of pads in materials that offer what the horse needs and • c) some simple principles and information about how to work with them. You have a recipe for keeping the ridden horse healthy, happy, sound and performing well. For the full range of BALANCE saddle pads, please go and have a look at the options available using the link here. BALANCE Products Of course, we are always happy to talk to you and give you more information if you want to get in touch with us at the BALANCE office, via our Contact Us page. 5 TRAVEL Due to a very successful talk given by Dr. Debbie Carley, founder of Thunderbrook yesterday, we have been inundated with enquiries as to why we are different from other feed companies, and what led to the formation of Thunderbrook Equestrian and why did Dr.Debbie Carley gave up a very high powered job ( working as a director for what at the time was the largest medical research charity in the world) in order to start a horse feed business. Well in truth, she did’nt, she took a 6 month sabatical when her own horses became ill, and well, she never returned, as they say, ‘the rest is history’ For over 70 years, our family have kept horses and never once in that time had a problem with laminitis, or related metabolic problems – that was until 2008. Within the space of 2 years, two mares developed acute laminitis, then a couple of others developed foot soreness and had to be restricted when already on poor grazing. In 2001, following my move to a new research job in Cambridge, we moved our small family run stud from a Wiltshire farm surrounded by cattle and sheep farming, to Norfolk, on the edge of Thetford Forest, surrounded by arable farming. In all the years we lived in Wiltshire, our horses were overall healthy with veterinary call-outs very few. But all that was about to change. Our first set-back occurred within a few months of moving to Norfolk. Our Welsh Sec D mare Abi suffered from impaction colic and had to be rushed to Newmarket for surgery. Once there, she was opened up and a full bucket of SAND was removed from her large intestines. It turned out that in our move from a clay-based soil in Wiltshire to a very sandybased soil in Norfolk, Abi was unable to clear the sand building up in her gut each time she grazed in the paddocks, and eventually it led to impaction colic. Back in 2001, that was my first introduction to using herbal products. There were (and still are) no veterinary drugs available to treat or prevent sand colic. Determined to save Abi suffering this fate again (and not wishing to have the expense of moving again) I researched and found out about Psyllium Husk, which is used in sandy places such as Australia and parts of America to help keep the horse’s gut clear of sand. From there, I researched with my own little herd of horses and found ways to enable the Psyllium husk to work more effectively by including other herbs, botanicals and products from the beehive, to help soothe the inflammation from the irritating sand particles, protect the gut membranes and help with moving the sand particles out. The resulting herbal product is what we now sell as Gut Cleanse. Over the next few years, other problems started to occur with our small herd of horses including persistent mane and tail rubbing, ventral midline dermatitis (itching under the belly), summer COPD, allergies, runny eyes and noses, infertility and then bang! We had major problems. In 2007 we had two mares develop acute laminitis requiring remedial farrier work. A couple of other horses developed foot soreness, despite already being on poor grazing. Feed and exercise regimes hadn’t changed over the years, the horses carried ‘summer condition’ as usual but were not obese, so the sudden onslaught of lamintis was most peculiar. Why had we gone from a position of never having had laminitis in over 70 years, to suddenly having 4 mares afflicted with it? Then Harlequin, our 16.2hh ex-eventer Welsh Cob gelding who had never been overweight, began to drastically lose condition and developed laminitis in all four feet, with pedal bone rotation. This proved to be the beginning of a number of findings and life changing events that came our way over the following two years…..and led to the formation, in 2009, of a family run business – Thunderbrook Equestrian and Equine Pure Essential horse feeds. Dr Deborah Carley Dr Deborah Carley BSc (Hons) Biochemistry, PhD Biological & Nutritional Sciences, is the proprietor of Thunderbrook Equestrian. Her specialist areas are equine nutrition, feeding the metabolic syndrome horse, feeding horses with ulcers or compromised digestion. Professional track record Dr Carley gained a first degree in Biochemistry from Sheffield University. She then went on to study for a PhD and post-doctoral research at the University of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, on ‘Molecular Analysis of Plant Cell Wall Hydrolases of Bacterial Origin’. This work involved the detailed genetics, molecular and cell biology of enzymes which break down cellulose and xylan – components of the grasses and grains that horses eat. Dr Carley then widened her research perspective working for a medical research charity, running the facilities to support genomics research and facilitating many high level international biomedical research conferences, training courses and workshops on areas such as diabetes, other metabolic diseases, plant genomics, genomics of common diseases, etc. Throughout most of this time, Dr Carley has kept a stable herd of a dozen or so horses, with little change in ownership. Applying her research principles to the practical and day-today care and maintenance of these horses has led to a new way of feeding – a programme designed to follow the way nature intended, but taking into account the changing environment of the 21st century. Why we are different We don’t want to just sell you a bag of ‘ready-made’ horse feed. We want you to understand what ingredients go into feed, what their actions are, and enable you to optimise your horse’s health and avoid problems. We are more than a feed company, we advise on how best to manage your horse’s environment, and continue to do our own research into the effects of pesticides and GMO on horse’s health. We are the only feed company in the UK that all of the following apply to – *We use No waste by-products, no cheap alternative ingredients, no fillers, no binders, no pelleting agents, no preservatives or synthetic micronutrients. **We include high levels of active ingredients. When we include probiotics, prebiotics and herbs for example, we include them in generous amounts that really do work. Not just a pinch to say it’s been included! ***We use ingredients that have undergone minimal processing to bring you active functional foods, with fewer toxic by-products Wherever possible organic, or as close to organic, ingredients are used. For example, our organic seed oats and our organic wheat bran are soil association approved. Some of our ingredients are chosen for minimal pesticide and herbicide usage, but it would be financially prohibitive to include them as totally organic. ****Our feeds and supplements are formulated by an expert biochemist and nutritionist with many years’ experience of horse husbandry. We also use the services of some of the best analytical laboratories in the UK and we have access to the finest feed formulation software, enabling us to formulate feeds and supplements for custom and specialist needs. *****Thunderbrook Equestrian partake in a continuing programme of research and feeding trials with the objective of producing a range of feeds and supplements to be sold on the quality of product, in excess of 90% of our new customers come to us via recommendations from existing customers or equine professionals, rather than purely through the efforts of a sales team. ******All our feeds and supplements are formulated to the best specification for their use, and up to the declared analysis, not the minimum permitted tolerances. We are a privately owned and totally independent company Birgitta’s note: I have been using the Base Mix, turmeric, gut restore and more from Thunderbrook. All 3 horses of mine are looking very good now. Over the years, ever since leaving Sweden nearly 30 years ago, I have been searching feeds that are natural - herbs,minerals and vitamins. But it has been hard to find what I have wanted. In Sweden, I had the opportunity to use natural minerals and vitamins from Eddie Blom - any Swede reading this will know, and see the astonishing good results. Thunderbrook ships to Europe, so living across the channel is not a hinder. Having access to the knowledge is another huge benefit. Thank you, all of you at Thunderbrook’s! 6
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