Alberto POGGIO - Presidio Europa

Movimento No Tav | Presidio Europa
Luca GIUNTI, Silvio MONTESINI, Alberto POGGIO
Mediterranean Corridor | which policy?
new railway ?
abandoned
abandoned
Lyon
Turin
interventions on
existing railways
addition
of one rail
Movimento No Tav | Presidio Europa
Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Lyon Turin | overview
INTERNATIONAL SECTION
Lyon
FRENCH ACCESS
Turin
existing Lyon Turin railway lines
new Lyon Turin railways (proposal)
ITALIAN ACCESS
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Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Lyon Turin | the project “puzzle”
freight / passengers
2 tunnel
double - barrel
2020
freight / passengers
undefined
TGV
passengers
2023
2025
freight only
3 tunnels
one - barrel
undefined
second barrel
Reference:
2023
freight / passengers
1 tunnel
double - barrel
undefined
freight / passengers
1 tunnel
double - barrel
Réseau Ferré de France, 2012, Dossier d’enquête publique sur les accès français à la liaison ferroviaire transalpine Lyon – Turin
Deliberazione 3 agosto 2011 (http://www.governo.it/GovernoInforma/Dossier/TAV/index.html)
Repubblica Italiana, Presidenza del Consiglio dei Ministri, Comitato Interministeriale per la Programmazione Economica
Movimento No Tav | Presidio Europa
Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
French access | the postponement
Duron Commission
French access Lyon-Turin
secondary priority
between
2030 and 2050
27 giugno 2013
Reference :
http://www.developpement-durable.gouv.fr/Remise-du-rapport-Mobilite-21-pour.html
Movimento No Tav | Presidio Europa
Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
French access | the postponement
Reference :
http://www.developpement-durable.gouv.fr/Remise-du-rapport-Mobilite-21-pour.html
Movimento No Tav | Presidio Europa
Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Lyon Turin | projects: state of the art
International section
St. Jean de
Maurienne
Lyon
AVANT-PROJET
Déclaration d'Utilité Publique
posponed by Mobilitè 21
Italian Access
Susa
Bussoleno
PROGETTO
DEFINITIVO
Avigliana
Settimo
Torinese
PROGETTO
PRELIMINARE
ITALY
FRANCE
French Access
pending approval pending approval
Lyon
Turin
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Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Lyon Turin | a lot of words …
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Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Environmental Impact | where is the Assessment ?
Movimento No Tav | Presidio Europa
Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Environmental Impact | where is the Assessment ?
Movimento No Tav | Presidio Europa
Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Opposition | about 100.000 citizen live here
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Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Opposition | Majors against Lyon Turin
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Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Militarization | a sustainable decision ?
Movimento No Tav | Presidio Europa
Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Legality | who work in Lyon Turin construction?
Suspected
‘ndrangheta
(Italian
Criminal
organisation)
construction
enterprise
worked in
Lyon Turin
construction
(Chiomonte site)
Movimento No Tav | Presidio Europa
Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Legality | who work in Lyon Turin construction?
Only French
(not Italian) Law
is applied to
Lyon Turin
construction
tenders and
works.
Zero controls
against mafia
Movimento No Tav | Presidio Europa
Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Land use | busy valley, how many infrastructures?
Moncenisio
(international pass)
High voltage
electric lines
Dora Riparia (river)
Fréjus (road + rail)
(2 international tunnels)
SS24 + SS25
(2 national roads)
Torino-Modane (international railway)
A 32 (international highway)
Monginevro
(international pass)
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Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Frejus | new tunnels are just ongoing !
Gabarit B+
Second barrel
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Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Environmental Balance | green railway ?
pollutant emissions
construction
685t
construction years
1,5 times !
472t
operating years
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Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Environmental Balance | green railway ?
pollutant emissions
construction
14 times !
363t
construction years
25t
operating years
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Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Environmental Balance | green railway ?
construction
operating
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Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Health Impact | risk for the population
Movimento No Tav | Presidio Europa
Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Health Impact | risk for the population
Reference :
LTF, Progetto Preliminare, Tratta internazionale
Studio di Impatto Ambientale, PP2 C3C TS3 0105A
APNOT
Sintesi non tecnica, PP2 C3C TS3 03240 APNOT
Movimento No Tav | Presidio Europa
Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Environmental Impact | a loss water river
Reference:
ECORYS Nederland BV in co-operation with COWI, ECN, Ernst & Young Europe and Consultrans, Analyse des études faites par LTF
sur le projet. Lyon - Turin (section internationale). Framework Contract TREN/CC/03-2005. Lot 2 : Economic assistance activities. April
2006,
Movimento No Tav | Presidio Europa
Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
freight | existing railway infrastructure
Freight transport capability
existing railway at Frejus
32,1
millions of tons
of freight per year
May 2007
Reference : http://www.governo.it/GovernoInforma/Dossier/TAV/index.html | http://www.regione.piemonte.it/speciali/nuova_TorinoLione/quaderni.htm
Movimento No Tav | Presidio Europa
Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
freight | existing railway infrastructure
Gabarit freight trasport
existing railway at Frejus
container
High Cube
Reference :
MIT, Direzione Generale per le Infrastrutture Ferroviarie e per l’Interoperabilità Ferroviaria http://www.mit.gov.it/mit/site.php?p=cm&o=vd&id=83
Movimento No Tav | Presidio Europa
Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
freight | how much ? where ?
RAILWAY
ROAD
Reference :
Movimento No Tav | Presidio Europa
Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
freight | are existing infrastructures sufficient ?
millions of tons of freight per year
ValSusa
Reference :
freight transport capability
existing railway at Frejus
32,1
road transport exception
for the closure after the accident
in Monte Bianco Tunnel
from march 1999 to march 2002
road
transport data
railway
transport data
10,7
3,4
1/9
road and railway transport data : Alpinfo (http://www.bav.admin.ch/verlagerung/01529/index.html?lang=it)
Confederazione Svizzera, Dipartimento federale dell‘ambiente, dei trasporti, dell‘energia e delle comunicazioni, Ufficio federale dei trasporti (CH)
existing railway capability; road and railway transport forecast : Quaderno 1, Quaderno 8 (http://www.regione.piemonte.it/speciali/nuova_TorinoLione/quaderni.htm)
Repubblica Italiana, Presidenza del Consiglio dei Ministri, Osservatorio Torino-Lione (IT)
Movimento No Tav | Presidio Europa
Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
freight | are project forecast consistent ?
Reference :
Lyon Turin project
road transport forecast
Lyon Turin project
railway transport forecast
39,9
freight transport capability
existing railway at Frejus
32,1
58,1
52,5
32,4
Monte Bianco
exception
railway
transport data
10,7
3,4
base
tunnel
2035
road
transport data
2023
millions of tons of freight per year
ValSusa
overall
new railway
road and railway transport data : Alpinfo (http://www.bav.admin.ch/verlagerung/01529/index.html?lang=it)
Confederazione Svizzera, Dipartimento federale dell‘ambiente, dei trasporti, dell‘energia e delle comunicazioni, Ufficio federale dei trasporti (CH)
existing railway capability; road and railway transport forecast : Quaderno 1, Quaderno 8 (http://www.regione.piemonte.it/speciali/nuova_TorinoLione/quaderni.htm)
Repubblica Italiana, Presidenza del Consiglio dei Ministri, Osservatorio Torino-Lione (IT)
Movimento No Tav | Presidio Europa
Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
investment | opportunities vs costs ?
costs-opportunities evaluation
Lyon
24 mld.€
Turin
overall railway operating
start construction opportunities horizon
2013
Reference :
2072
December 2011
http://www.governo.it/GovernoInforma/Dossier/TAV/index.html | http://www.regione.piemonte.it/speciali/nuova_TorinoLione/quaderni.htm
Movimento No Tav | Presidio Europa
Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
investment | opportunities vs costs ?
50 years (until 2073) are needed
to balance costs and opportunities
less opportunities without the
out-of-scale transport forecast of the project
wrong analysis compared to present
delays and changing in the project
Reference : http://www.governo.it/GovernoInforma/Dossier/TAV/index.html | http://www.regione.piemonte.it/speciali/nuova_TorinoLione/quaderni.htm
Movimento No Tav | Presidio Europa
Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Lyon Turin | overall state of the art
FUNDS
WORKS
ITALIAN
ACCESS
INTERNATIONAL
SECTION
FRENCH
ACCESS
PROJECTS
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Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Lyon Turin | works: state of the art
completed
completed
ongoing
completed
data from
(project)
BASE TUNNEL
auxiliary tunnels
realised
(58km)
0%
(16,5km) 100%
0 km
9 km
0 km
1,3 km
0%
17%
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Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Works delay | La Maddalena (IT) tunnel excavation
today
1295 m
end of work
project*
3465 m
7541 m
17%
83%
done in
20
start
21.01.2013
still to do in
16
months
today
01.10.2014
months
UE deadline
31.12.2015
*12 november 2013, at 235 m, was started the excavation by TBM (tunnelling
boring machine). According the project, it should go ahead 10 m per day.
After more than 300 days, the tunnel should be arrived at more than 3 km.
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Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Works delay | La Maddalena (IT) tunnel excavation
Recent tender from
Lyon Turin Ferroviaire
1 year delay (dec 2016 instead of dec 2015)
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Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
Works delay | La Maddalena (IT) tunnel excavation
UE funds will not
pay works
UE deadline completed after the
31 december 2015
excavation progress (m)
full control
on working
area
27
june
2011
Start
TBM
start
excavation
19 months
without
excavation
7541
31
december
2015
LTF MIT
12
november
2013
forecast
21
january
2013
~50%
1295
01 ott 2014
17%
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Luca Giunti | Silvio Montesini | Alberto Poggio
UE funds | did they really use this money ?
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UE funds | did they really use this money ?
works
-57%
UE funds
-41%
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Luca GIUNTI, Silvio MONTESINI, Alberto POGGIO